Why don’t conservatives utter the phrase “voting rights”?

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This is part 23 in a series of 35 questions. It is based on a series of questions answered by John Hawkins for Townhall.com: here, and here.

23. Why don’t liberty loving conservatives ever utter the phrase “voting rights”?

People don’t have a right to vote. It is a privilege granted to citizens, and as such, the privilege can be taken away, for example, in the case of a convicted felon. There are also stipulations, for example, you have to be 18.

Non-citizens Don’t Have A Right

Non-citizens should not be allowed to vote at all, at any level, in U.S. elections whether they are here legally or not. It is an affront to those who are actually citizens. Why should a person who is not a citizen have a voice in the way this country is run? Answer? They shouldn’t. They don’t have a right.

18 Year Olds Don’t Have A Right

“They possess a great social conscience, are perplexed by the injustices in the world and are anxious to rectify those ills.1” – Jennings Randolph

The voting age should be returned to 21. It doesn’t matter that they “possess a great social conscience.” They are typically led by emotions instead of reason, and haven’t really lived life. I actually wouldn’t mind seeing the voting age moved to 25, or even 27 since they’re legally able to be dependent on their parents until then. The only exception to the voting age is a member of the military. Show your military ID, along with your state identification card, and you’re good. There is no right to vote at 18, or 21, or whatever. It’s a privilege provided by law.

If You’re Not Registered You Don’t Have A Right

It’s not much to ask that you prove you’re a citizen to vote, and if you can’t prove that, you don’t get to vote. Some of the responsibility lies with the individual, and if you don’t have the responsibility, I don’t have a problem turning you away. Actually, if you’re not responsible enough to take care of your business prior to showing up, then it may be that you’re not responsible enough to vote. I have a hard time that many people don’t have IDs with the amount of things you need an ID for.

Maybe instead of asking conservatives to utter the phrase “voting rights,” we should ask why liberals don’t ever utter the phrase “voter fraud.”

  1. The 26th Amendment. History.com. A+E Networks. 2010. Accessed: 24 Apr 2018. Web. 

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If conservatives believed in the marketplace of ideas, wouldn’t they want everyone to vote?

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This is part 7 in a series of 35 questions. It is based on a series of questions answered by John Hawkins for Townhall.com: here, and here.

7. If conservatives believed in the marketplace of ideas, and observed voter fraud is low, wouldn’t they want everyone to vote?

First, Conservatives are more open to allowing opposing ideas than liberals, even hateful ones! We do not try to shut down opposing views, even when both sides agree on what constitutes hateful speech. The difference is that conservatives would rather discuss the issue and try to prove our point, with the ultimate goal of changing people’s mind for the better. Liberals end discussions they are/will lose with name calling, and more recently, rioting and vandalism. How many discussions are ended by a liberal simply by calling the other person a racist or homophobe?

Second, the issue of voter fraud has been covered. You can read that here. The bottom line is that conservatives what the people who are supposed to be voting are the people voting. Voter fraud is unacceptable on any level.

Finally, While I want everyone to vote that has a right to vote, I also think EVERYONE should pay taxes. I don’t think it’s fair for people that don’t pay into the system to have a voice in the system. Seriously. Why should people who don’t pay taxes have a say in how much taxes people should pay? Liberals like to talk about fairness, so I ask, is that fair? People who don’t pay taxes can vote for politicians who support ever increasing taxes and welfare benefits, but who cares, because it doesn’t come out of their pocket–at least directly.

Should non-citizens vote? Absolutely not! And like Hawkins pointed out, if you don’t pay attention to politics, should you really be making political decisions? I see people on Facebook: “I don’t pay attention to politics,” they say. How do you make a decision on who to vote for then? Do you vote based on what’s between a person’s legs? Their hair color? Their age? Whoever is promising the most free shit? Do you vote for whoever Bruce Springsteen says to vote for? If you’re not paying attention, how the hell do you know what you’re voting for?

In an idealist world, I want everyone to vote. In the real world? No. Voters scare the hell out of me.

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Do Republicans honestly believe voter fraud is a real issue?

35 Questions

This is part 1 in a series of 35 questions. It is based on a series of questions answered by John Hawkins for Townhall.com: here, and here.

1. Do R’s honestly believe voter fraud is a real issue and not just a blatant excuse to suppress min vote. Please provide proof.

Hawkins provides a good list of proofs; plenty to get you started. The only thing I would add is that an investigation needs to be conducted in Detroit because of discrepancies that were found when the recount began. If the recount wouldn’t have been canceled, many votes wouldn’t have been allowed because of discrepancies.

On the other hand, I don’t think that Hawkins did a good job addressing the accusation of conservatives wanting to suppress the minority vote. First, conservatives do NOT want to suppress the minority vote, they want to suppress voter fraud, even if it is minimal. They want to make sure that the people who are voting are the people who have a RIGHT to vote, not illegal immigrants, multiple voters, or dead people. Creating laws that minimize the ability for fraud to occur, such as proving you’re who you say you are with a picture id makes sense and applies equally to everyone regardless of skin color. Recently, according to the National Review, the United Kingdom and United states were the “only industrial democracies that don’t routinely require voters to show an ID1.” However, that’s changing in the United Kingdom2. The United States needs to follow suit.

I would turn the question around and ask, why do liberals think minorities are less capable than whites to obtain an id? Is it racist to ask a minority for id when they want to buy alcohol? If we can’t require an id to vote because it’s racist, then we need to stop requiring an id to buy alcohol, or for that matter, a gun. The idea that it’s harder for a minority to get an id is ridiculous, and quite frankly, racist.

  1. Fund, John. 2015. Voter ID: Other Countries Require It. National Review. Accessed: 4 Feb 2017. 
  2. Mason, Rowena. 2016. Voters in local elections will be required to show ID in anti-fraud trials. The Guardian. Accessed: 4 Feb 2017. 

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